Haley spoke to the former Fox News host at the Family Leadership Summit, held in Des Moines, Iowa. Several others Republican presidential hopefuls also participated in the event.
Haley, who announced him presidential election in Februaryhe talked about reforming the public sector and what he could do about climate change, and was asked an unusual question that kept him from asking himself during the 30-minute interview.
“They say that Joe Biden got 81 million votes, and my question is: Do you agree, secondly, how do you think he did that?” Carlson asked.
“What I care about is changing this. We can’t afford President Kamala Harris. I’ll say it again and again,” he replied, adding that what we can learn from the 2020 election is that states need to implement voter ID laws.
“What I said in South Carolina is if you have to show a photo to buy Sudafed, if you have to show a photo to get on a plane, you have to show a photo ID to protect the election,” he said.
More than just voter IDs, Haley said protecting voter integrity is a process that “can’t stop.” Haley also explained that in her role as US ambassador to the UN, she saw how voters losing faith in the electoral system is the first step in a country falling apart.
When Carlson asked if there were any problems with the 2020 election, he said “there are mistakes,” including “voting by mail that shouldn’t have happened.” However, Haley said she does not think the problems are important enough to change the outcome of the election.
Reforming Radicalized Agencies
Carlson said that various government agencies – such as the CIA and the FBI – “messed up” the 2020 presidential election. He also asked Haley what she could do, since many people think that the government agencies have become too powerful.
He replied: “When I was governor, I went and brought in the officials of each organization. “The American people don’t trust our law enforcement agencies, so you can’t just replace the person at the top. You have to go through and really look to destroy those agencies.”
Haley said people who work for the state of South Carolina the organizations he was part of were not affiliated with him politically, but he had deep knowledge in the narrow field assigned to him. He said he had sent teams to each organization to clean them up.
“Sometimes, we’ve had to change institutions. Sometimes, we’ve had to destroy institutions,” Haley said.
As for government agencies, like the intelligence services, Haley said you can’t trust them to fix themselves. He said the solution is not to put a good person at the top of the organization, but to review and remove most of the senior management.
The former ambassador of the United Nations said that the important thing to understand when dealing with government officials is that “everything you do is very important.” He said that during his first week as UN ambassador in early 2017, someone in his department called the media and told them what he wanted to do.
“There was nothing I could have done,” Haley said, adding that the UN official was the former sister of Secretary of State John Kerry, who could not be removed for six months.
“I said, ‘You take his license. You take his computer. We’re going to pay for him to stay home, but not to come back into this building,’” Haley said to loud applause.
Carlson discussed with Haley what she would do about climate change if she were to become president. He asked her if she thought the weather was changing, and if so, why.
“Honestly, I don’t know how much money is being converted or not, as I know that putting electric cars on the road is not the answer to what you are doing,” he said.
Haley said the biggest problem the US has right now is that our leaders have to go “hat in hand” to Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Venezuela to get oil.
“We have to be energy independent, no matter what. I don’t care what anybody says about the environment,” Haley said. “This is a national security threat because of the lack of energy independence.”
He said ensuring US energy independence is one of his top priorities as president.
Then Carlson changed topics.
“Who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline?” the former Fox News host asked.
The Nord Stream pipeline, which carries natural gas under the Baltic Sea from Russia to Germany, was cut off by a bomb blast in September 2022.
“I mean, I don’t know, do I?” the former South Carolina governor responded during a break.
Carlson laughed, and said the evidence showed they were Biden’s agents.
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